Five Questions: Brooklyn-based visual artist Rashid Johnson
In “New Growth,” Johnson begins with the question, “What would happen if Sun Ra, George Washington Carver and Robert Smithson started a community together in the desert?” He works with historically loaded items from his childhood such as shea butter, black soap, books and LP record covers. The exhibition also features Johnson’s largest sculpture to date: “Shea Butter Irrigation System.”
Johnson was born in 1977 in Chicago. He lives and works in Brooklyn. He was recently the subject of a solo exhibition at Chicago's Museum of Contemporary Art. His work has also been included in group exhibitions such as the Shanghai Biennale and Venice Biennale.
CPR: How is this show opening at the MCA “New Growth” a departure from past exhibits you’ve created?
Rashid Johnson: I was invited to make a body of work in Marfa, Texas, the longtime home of Donald Judd. The landscape had a huge effect on me, seeing the high desert stretch for miles in every direction with essentially no human intervention. I made these works with this experience of the landscape in mind. This connection is particularly strong in two works in the show: "Shea Butter Irrigation System" and "Samuel in Space." The agriculture around Marfa is all watered using these giant irrigation machines, and I liked the idea of taking this vernacular industrial agricultural form and putting it to use with a material I’ve used in my work for a number of years: shea butter. The work is designed to allow the shea butter blocks to melt in the sun and drip down into the landscape. I always wondered how that might affect what would grow there, a special out-of-place kind of fertilizer. This is in part the new growth the show title refers to. "Samuel in Space" is a film in which a black character leaps and tumbles through the Texas landscape, in a way laying claim to the space.
CPR: You grew up in Chicago in the 1970s in an afro-centric household. Your mother holds a doctorate in African History. How has your childhood influenced your work today?
Rashid Johnson: My childhood is a big influence in my work. As a kid, my parents were really interested in the afrocentric movement, and they embraced it: My mother wore daishikis, we celebrated Kwanzaa and so on. Then, at some point, this wasn’t interesting to them anymore in the same way, and they stopped. So my work definitely has some kind of nostalgia for that experience, when my life was full of African materials and a particular kind of African-American cultural understanding. Plus, we listened to a lot of jazz in my house, and my dad built CB radio systems, and both music (particularly record covers) and radio equipment appear in my work a lot.
CPR: Your work is considered a leading example of “Post-Black Art.” I understand there was a time when you reacted negatively to this label. How has your opinion of the label changed and why?
Rashid Johnson: I like to say that I’m not sure what "post-black" is, since I’m definitely still black. I think the phrase is often used to draw a distinction between black artists whose work is focused on the history of slavery and oppression of black people in America and those black artists whose work is about their own identity as black people but not so much focused on that same history, at least not in the same way. My work has lots of reference points for me: my history, art history, black history. Maybe that’s why people like to use the phrase "post-black." The work isn’t focused on one thing.
CPR: You use many commonplace household items in your work such as soap, books and record covers. You call this process “hijacking the domestic.” What role do these items play in your work?
Rashid Johnson: They come from personal experience and all have meanings and history for me, but they don’t mean the same thing to everyone. It’s interesting to see how different people see the same objects and create their own narratives and assign their own meanings. For instance, many of the books in my work were books in my house growing up. I read many of them as a kid. And in my work I carry with me what those books mean as pieces of writing while also employing them as a mark-making technique.
CPR: You refer to your paintings as “Cosmic Slop.” What is cosmic slop?
Rashid Johnson: The phrase "Cosmic Slop" comes from an album by Funkadelic that came out in 1973. It refers to a fictional dance, “Let’s do the Cosmic Slop,” and I like the idea that this dance has something to do with the performance of making a painting. When I make these works in the studio, I move around them on the floor, on the wall, back on the floor, and I realize the movement ends up becoming something like a dance that the painting comes out of.
"New Growth" opens with a public reception from 8 to 10 p.m. this evening at the MCA, 1485 Delgany Street, and runs through June 15.
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